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bel8 6 hours ago [-]
So DeepSeek v4 will cost 2x between 9:00 to 12:00 and 14:00 to 18:00, Beijing Time.
This is UTC+8 so to get cheaper DeepSeek:
- in London (BST / UTC+1): 11:00 to 02:00, and 05:00 to 07:00.
- in NY (EDT / UTC-4): 06:00 to 21:00, and 00:00 to 02:00.
- in California (PDT / UTC-7): 03:00 to 18:00, and 21:00 to 23:00.
Subscription plans like OpenCode Go might not even pass down this 2x cost since most customers are EU/US.
gruez 4 hours ago [-]
>This is UTC+8 so to get cheaper DeepSeek:
Note "cheaper" is only relative to the 2x peak price. The off-peak price is still the same price as today. In other words they hiked the price 2x for peak hours only.
CharlesW 6 hours ago [-]
> in California (PDT / UTC-7): 03:00 to 18:00, and 21:00 to 23:00.
I think that’s incorrect. For California (PDT), 2X pricing will be in effect from 6–9pm and 11pm–3am. During PST, the CA windows will be 5–8pm and 10pm–2am.
NooneAtAll3 6 hours ago [-]
> 2X pricing will be in effect from 6–9pm and 11pm–3am
that's why cheaper price is 03-18 and 21-23, aka 3am-6pm,9pm-11pm
CharlesW 4 hours ago [-]
Oops, the "cost 2x" mention in the first paragraph confused me. Thanks!
6 hours ago [-]
stavros 6 hours ago [-]
I don't understand, you say that Deepseek will be more expensive for seven hours a day and then give five hours a day where it's cheaper in London.
drcongo 6 hours ago [-]
11:00 to 02:00, and 05:00 to 07:00 is 17 hours right?
stavros 6 hours ago [-]
Ahh I'm very sleep deprived, thanks. Parsed 02:00 as 14:00.
drcongo 6 hours ago [-]
I just worked out that that was probably the cause. Hope you're not baking over there.
stavros 6 hours ago [-]
Thanks, I'm trying but it's been pretty hot. You guys have it worse though, I was just in London and it was unbearable. At least AC helps here.
0-_-0 6 hours ago [-]
That math makes no sense
bel8 5 hours ago [-]
Perhaps you read those western times as being the more expensive time windows? They are the cheaper times. I know it can be confusing.
But please let me know where my math is wrong.
egeozcan 6 hours ago [-]
For Berlin time (Germany, UTC+2, CEST), the 2x cost period is 03:00 - 06:00, and 08:00 - 12:00.
08:00 - 12:00 would have really hurt if prices were not ridiculously low to begin with.
gregman1 3 hours ago [-]
So for some time spans it goes from ridiculously cheap to just very very cheap? I support that and I see no problem whatsoever.
osti 5 hours ago [-]
This announcement also mentioned that they will release the next version (official non preview version) of v4 in mid July.
kiproping 5 hours ago [-]
I have not seen the official deepseek communication to this effect.
phainopepla2 5 hours ago [-]
I got an email from them with this information approximately six hours ago.
There is also a banner about the price change on their API platform site, at least for me
vdfs 5 hours ago [-]
You were NOT the Chosen One! It was said that you would NOT destroy the Sith, BUT join them! Bring balance to the Sheets, not leave it in darkness!
docheinestages 5 hours ago [-]
It's business at the end of the day. Don't get surprised if one day DeepSeek does a rug pull too.
downrightmike 3 hours ago [-]
Rug pull already underway. They're all heavily subsidized, that is drying up and they all need to show revenue if they are to survive.
polshaw 6 hours ago [-]
Content restricted in the UK
lmf4lol 3 hours ago [-]
It is truly sad to see what is happening to the UK.
londons_explore 5 hours ago [-]
The same site seems to host cryptocurrency related things, and the UK has a bunch of crypto laws.
mertleee 14 minutes ago [-]
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throwitaway222 5 hours ago [-]
Yall trust LLM providers sweeping up keys and passwords? Sometimes you have a little .env file or config files in your repos that are not checked in... LLMs like to read that stuff and send it in. I don't trust any of the LLM providers, but less so the ones seated in China.
jst1fthsdys 5 hours ago [-]
Yes, never trust the perfidious chinamen or their evil LLMs. They are on another level of evil than our glorious and noble western LLMs that are used to bomb schools.
This is UTC+8 so to get cheaper DeepSeek:
- in London (BST / UTC+1): 11:00 to 02:00, and 05:00 to 07:00.
- in NY (EDT / UTC-4): 06:00 to 21:00, and 00:00 to 02:00.
- in California (PDT / UTC-7): 03:00 to 18:00, and 21:00 to 23:00.
Subscription plans like OpenCode Go might not even pass down this 2x cost since most customers are EU/US.
Note "cheaper" is only relative to the 2x peak price. The off-peak price is still the same price as today. In other words they hiked the price 2x for peak hours only.
I think that’s incorrect. For California (PDT), 2X pricing will be in effect from 6–9pm and 11pm–3am. During PST, the CA windows will be 5–8pm and 10pm–2am.
that's why cheaper price is 03-18 and 21-23, aka 3am-6pm,9pm-11pm
But please let me know where my math is wrong.
08:00 - 12:00 would have really hurt if prices were not ridiculously low to begin with.
There is also a banner about the price change on their API platform site, at least for me